Tulpa.info - metaphysics

Recently we had an Orthodox Christian in this channel who believed that tulpamancy went against the virgin birth doctrine or something

5:24 AM

So no, God didnt make us to create tulpas :(

was that person a tulpamancer? (edited)

He joined the server to find out more about aphantasia, since Orthodoxy preaches that visualization is demonic in nature

5:25 AM

Sooo, nope

Unfastened Belts

He joined the server to find out more about aphantasia, since Orthodoxy preaches that visualization is demonic in nature

yeah I was sort of worried about Tulpas for a similar reason

5:25 AM

yet here I am

He might still be on the server

so....

Aww they left. Their name was RegularReptile if anyone wants to look up the convo we had

Albino Elephant

I mean even the Norse had tulpamancy like practices

Ooh plz tell moar I would like to read more about that.

There was the Hugr which was like sending your will out with its own consciousness and the concept of animal spirits (I forget the actual name) where they would follow you around and watch over you with sentience

Hmm yeah ok I've got a quartz crystal I could try creating something in, I'm a bit hesitant about creating a consciousness in an object though. Maybe I'll try with a poltergeist, though after reading occult literature and knowing exorcism and having experience with servitors.

7:45 AM

Actually what about people that were meant to also have a wolf spirit O: what's-it-called ulf something (edited)

Your animal spirit was supposed to represent your personality. So party girls would be cats, deceitful people foxes, warriors wolves, etc

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It is called the fylgya (edited)

Deceitful is foxes?

Lily shouldn't be the fox then. Why are cats party girls?

8:12 AM

The sending your will out with its own consciousness sounds REALLY interesting though.

Freya is represented by cats and she is also a party girl type goddess so they are closely linked. Loki is linked to manipulation in many ways and he uses foxes. They are not linked because of these mythologies but these mythologies show that they were linked at least to the Norse.

Ohhhhg

Loki, as in low-key, as in sly, get it?

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4:07 PM

galaxy brain

To answer a question a while back on here, I've read about tulpamancers being able to have tulpas that can manipulate the physical. It wouldn't be too hard if you were to get to an intermediate level of out of body travel. You should hear about the things shamans can do with entities like tulpas.

Sure, but if it was reliably possible, why has no one collected that million from James Randi yet?

The same reason Buddhists practice in monasteries instead of inside of a city with people like them. People don't understand the physics of the 4th dimension. Theres a thing called consensus reality. Its a theory/hypothesis that since we're psychic beings, that would mean that our view of reality plays on what we experience. So if you truly believe that no one can do these things, it's going to affect people that believe they can.

4:15 PM

Consensus reality is the same reason why egregores are a thing

4:16 PM

That million dollars mess is bogus.

What are egregores?

Shamans/hardcore buddhists do impossible stuff all the time.

4:16 PM

Egregores are more powerful tulpas that are given existence to by multiple people

4:17 PM

The fact that multiple people give energy/will to the entity is the reason for why its more powerful than a thoughtform only given existence to by one person

4:18 PM

If interdimensional travel and the things one can do while in that travel were impossible/in one's head, places like the white house wouldn't have electromagnetic interference for people trying to enter in the astral. Same with area 51. Too many people who report traveling to these place mention the same things

4:19 PM

Enter in Project Stargate when the CIA studied this stuff with the Monroe Institute

4:19 PM

All of which is declassified on the CIA website

Rome

Shamans/hardcore buddhists do impossible stuff all the time.

How do you know? Eyewitness reports?

lmao I'm something of a shaman myself and a lot of what I do would be considered impossible

Oh huh

Like for instance, recently my tulpas helped me meet up with my future self in the astral to help me with various things, which was something I only theorized was possible beforehand.

4:24 PM

that's just one recent event too

From how far in the future? Have you caught up to it yet?

Nah. Its pretty far.

Then how do you know thats what actually happened?

Because I know I'll do it in the future eventually just because the event itself happened

4:27 PM

What happened wouldn't have otherwise happened if I didn't come in, my future self rather

4:27 PM

Robert Bruce describes being able to do this too

4:27 PM

Yall really need to read up on his literature. He's like the father of OBE's and metaphysics in general

What I mean is, how do you know that was really your future self rather than a convincing apparition?

4:28 PM

Sorry Im not like trying to shut you up, this is fascinating to me

This apparition would have to go through a LOT, plus its just an instinctive knowing you have of people while you're in the astral that you can't really explain.

4:29 PM

Also its too coincidental

4:29 PM

It was a planned event by myself

Unfastened Belts

Sure, but if it was reliably possible, why has no one collected that million from James Randi yet?

wasn't that challenge ended some years ago after nobody was able to do it?

Rome

It was a planned event by myself

Thats the opposite of coincidental. You expected to meet your future self and met something that behaved like it could be that

Look. I know you're playing the skeptic and I appreciate it. But its coming across as a tad dismissive. I say its coincidental because I planned on everything that happened that day except for how it ended for months. I obsess over the number 2. Its a sacred number to me. I made this happen on 2/2/2020 at 2:22am. Pretty sure I wouldn't allow for an entity to enter my room in the future, and I KNOW I'll be coming back to that specific point in time again.

4:36 PM

Not to be rude, but you guys really overestimate the power that "demons" and apparitions hold over people.

4:38 PM

I can also find the point in one of Monroes books where he accidentally meets his future self in one of his out of body experiences.

4:38 PM

if you guys want

By apparition, I didnt mean an external entity

wouldn't it also be possible that was you that you from the future that you were talking to, but not the you from this future? learning about how the future will be inherently changes what the future will be, so if you talked to yourself from the future that would cause the timelines to diverge so that when you actually get to that point, you will be a different person from the person who you talked to

That is totally dependent on whether or not I hold true to my promise to myself, which I will.

4:39 PM

Also I didn't learn anything about the future or even my future. It was meant for metaphysical experimentation

you learned something about the future, even if your future self didn't directly tell you anything

4:40 PM

you know that you will be alive by that point in the future, and that you will be able to time travel

Everyone can time travel.

not backwards

Not that much of a lesson or learning experience

4:41 PM

Yes, everyone can

I cannot do that

backwards forwards circular

4:41 PM

You can. You just don't know how

if I don't know how then I can't

We're getting into semantics

4:41 PM

You could if you knew how. Its not totally impossible to you is what I am saying

I am not talking about inherent ability, I am talking about effective ability. everyone has the potential to time travel, maybe, but everyone certain does not have the ability

4:42 PM

there is an important difference

4:42 PM

you know that you will know how to time travel in the future, if that phrasing makes you more happy

But that difference doesn't matter when it incorporates "learning about the future" when the future is predicable as hell

4:43 PM

predictable

so you were already 100% certain that you would figure out time travel?

As certain as I am that water is the sum of on hydrogen molecule and 2 oxygen

If you planned on everything that happened for months in advance, it would be unsurprising for you to experience just that, even if that wasnt actually a future you

Exactly, which is what I'm trying to say is the reason for nothing in the future changing

why are you so certain? as far as I know, the amount of times people have gone backwards in time is exactly 0, not counting your story

As far as you know, those are the key words

yes

4:45 PM

so what I am asking is "what do you know that I don't that makes you so certain?"

The more magic you do the more feedback loops through time you will encounter which will continue to prove to you that energy can and does go back through time

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Let's just say this type of stuff is my passion and area of expertise. I've read about this stuff INTENSELY for years. Backwards time travel from the 4th dimension is hardly anything to be skeptical about

4:45 PM

^^^^^

My daughter...

Backwards time travel from the 4th dimension is hardly anything to be skeptical about

Im gonna put this line as the header on my resume

lmfao

I feel like it would be a lot more obvious if backwards time travel was so easy as you seem to be implying

then go do it. You want a tutorial? lmao

I honestly cannot say I remember anyone having an event where they were like "time travel in the astral is definitely real" Everyone who messes with time in the astral or with magic in general is convinced by it over multiple events over a course of time. Same as magic in general.

time travel doesn't seem like the sort of thing that would not leave a lot of evidence of it's existence

Exactly. It wasn't spontaneous

@Breloomancer Do you think we are talking about actually jumping back in time with your physical body?

I think you've been confused on what I'm doing this entire time